Yes, it can actually be made at home, not from a box of pre-made roux.
I chose to research this because I really wanted my clients to have the opportunity to taste it, but I am all about NOT using MSG or other synthetic flavor enhancers or preservatives. Of course, I had to begin this research by using a box of the homemade roux- you know the kind...little squares of solid paste that dissolve into the most gloriously sweet and savory and glistening curry sauce we've all come to know as Golden Curry. I then set about the task of re-creating those same flavors without the pre-made stuff.
It was no easy task. I know about 20 Japanese folks personally, and not one of them had ever tried or even heard of anyone trying to make golden curry without the pre-made roux cubes. Frustrating as hell! Anyway, I finally got it right and had a big ol' feast and invited all of my Japanese friends (and they brought their friends) and we sampled it. It was PERFECT!
I'll happily pass this recipe on in email if anyone is interested. And the one thing that I discovered that sets this curry apart from all others? An apple juice reduction sauce.
I chose to research this because I really wanted my clients to have the opportunity to taste it, but I am all about NOT using MSG or other synthetic flavor enhancers or preservatives. Of course, I had to begin this research by using a box of the homemade roux- you know the kind...little squares of solid paste that dissolve into the most gloriously sweet and savory and glistening curry sauce we've all come to know as Golden Curry. I then set about the task of re-creating those same flavors without the pre-made stuff.
It was no easy task. I know about 20 Japanese folks personally, and not one of them had ever tried or even heard of anyone trying to make golden curry without the pre-made roux cubes. Frustrating as hell! Anyway, I finally got it right and had a big ol' feast and invited all of my Japanese friends (and they brought their friends) and we sampled it. It was PERFECT!
I'll happily pass this recipe on in email if anyone is interested. And the one thing that I discovered that sets this curry apart from all others? An apple juice reduction sauce.
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Re: Japanese Golden Curry!
Sun, June 25, 2006 - 8:43 PMKryssa
i would like the recipe if you don't mind. You want to just message my profile or have me message you and include my e addy?
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Sun, June 25, 2006 - 9:34 PMyes, please, kryssa, share the recipe - the boxed golden curry sauce mix is a favorite in this house, but would so much rather make it from scratch. -
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Mon, June 26, 2006 - 4:37 PMPlease share the recipe!!! :) -
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Re: Japanese Golden Curry!
Mon, June 26, 2006 - 6:57 PMWell, since I got 3 responses I'll just post it here instead of via email. However, when I make this I make enough for a small army, so you'll obviously have to adjust for smaller batches. Fortunately, it does adjust well as I've made it for 4, 6 and 8 servings but just never bothered to change the recipe in my computer. So, get out the ol' calculator and have fun!
40 servings...that's right. I said 40!
Ingredients:
for the roux:
*1/4 cup yellow curry powder (less if spicy, or more to taste)
6 yellow onions, minced
1 cup flour
7 quarts stock (beef for meat version, veggie and Bragg's Amino's for vegetarian)
2 cups reduced apple juice (begin with 4 and reduce to 2)
4 Tbls grated fresh ginger
4 Tbls fresh chopped garlic
2 Tbls garam masala
* 1/4 cup canola oil or clarified butter or combination
For Curry:
6 to 8 lbs stew meat, cut into large bite size pieces for meat version, or *2 lbs tempeh for vegetarian
*Splash of apple juice
10 lbs potato, or *14 lbs for vegetarian, peeled, cut into large bite size pieces
6 lbs carrots, or *8 lbs for vegetarian, peeled and cut into large moon shapes
6 lbs onion, or *8 lbs for vegetarian
(optional additional vegetables: green beans cut in half, quartered mushrooms, firm white parts of bok choy- green parts may be added to another dish, turnips, etc.)
Directions for roux:
Heat stockand juice in pot.
Saute onion in oil or butter slowly until browned, about 20 minutes. Add garlic and ginger. Blend in flour and curry powder to form roux and slowly sir in stock/juice mixture til thickened. Add garam masala last. Adjust seasoning as needed and add cayenne if a spicier roux is desired. Continue to cook over low heat, stirring ocassionally.
For Curry:
Prepare and cut all vegetables, meat and/or tempeh into large bite size pieces. Cook meat and/or tempeh in lightly oiled saute pan over high heat til seared on all sides. Remove and add to roux. Add a splash of apple juice to saute pan while still hot to deglaze and then add a few tbls roux to saute pan, then add back to roux pot. Add vegetables to roux in order of cooking time, begining with onions, potatoes, carrots, turnips (if using), beans, mushrooms and ending with bok choy (if using).
Reduce heat and simmer curry til meat is cooked, or until ready to serve.
Okay, so I've played around with this a bit and found that the addition of chopped apples, or better yet chopped rehydrated dried apples, gives it a depth of flavor not found in the traditional roux. Also, sometimes I add liquid "Bragg's Amino Acids" for the vegetarian version as it lends a meaty flavor without meat.
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Re: Japanese Golden Curry!
Mon, June 26, 2006 - 7:09 PMKryssa
Thanks bunches, and well since i also have a tendency to make enough for a small army (giggles) does this save well like a day or two at least.
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Re: Japanese Golden Curry!
Mon, June 26, 2006 - 7:36 PMYou can make the roux part of it and freeze it for up to 3 months if it's packaged in glass. Plastic has been shown to cause all manner of health hazards and aluminum imparts a yucky flavor.
Also, you can use much less beef than the recipe originally calls for. I've done it both ways, with 6 lbs+ and with 6lb-, and the flavor and consistency are just as good either way. but, once is much less expensive! -
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Tue, June 27, 2006 - 5:53 PMKryssa, you are a goddess! Can't wait to make it (for 40!!!!) - thank you so much! -
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Thu, June 29, 2006 - 9:19 PMAw shucks, ma'am.
Seriously, I do apologize for it being in such gargantuan proportions. Also, if you prefer a moe glistening curry, add a bit more cold butter tot he roux after removing it from the heat. Stir it gently while the butter metls and it gives that golden sheen that we've all become accustomed to from the box.
And if you like it sweeter, use more apple juice. I've tried sugar-as most Japanese recipes call for a lot of sugar- but found it hardened the roux more than I like and didn't impart that depth of flavor like apple juice does.
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Bumping this for Mari!
Mon, September 4, 2006 - 12:14 AMPlease be sure to adjust the measurements for fewer servings.
Kryssa
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Re: Japanese Golden Curry!
Mon, September 4, 2006 - 11:18 AMtotal YUM! that's gonna be a great one to try out as soon as the weather chills a bit. i bet it packs well for lunch, too!
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Wed, February 21, 2007 - 7:23 AMThanks for posting the recipe! I'm always into curry of different types.
In regard to this recipe, when you start off with "yellow curry powder", is this the traditional Indian type with turmeric, etc in it? Just want to make sure I'm not using the wrong thing right off!
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Thu, February 22, 2007 - 10:42 AMYes, yellow curry powder would be the relatively generic kind you can buy in bulk at most health food stores. I tend to avoid the jarred version because they often have anti-caking agents in them.
Did i ever tell ya'll the story of how Japanese Golden Curry came to be? I actually researched it once.
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Sun, February 25, 2007 - 2:58 PMK - Please tell the story! -
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Fri, March 2, 2007 - 9:20 PMoops! Life has recently gotten very busy and I forgot to tel ya'll the story. (I'm expanding my personal chef biz and having a commercial kitchen/showroom built, so my brain has been otherwise occupied lately).
Anyway, apparently the the British Raj (after appropriating Indian Yellow Currry for themselves) brought the dish to Japan and introduced it to the Japanese Royal Family in the 1890's as British cuisine. The Japanese Royal Family loved it so much they attempted to recreate it. In fact, they thought they had recreated it. Sometimes in the 1920's an Indian Royal Family came to visit the Japanese Royal Family and the Japanese chose to introduce this sumptuous dish of spiced gravy and rice to their Indian comrades. The Indian family liked it very much but had no idea what it was. The Japanese family explained that it was called "kari" and it hails from Britain. The Indian family were enraged and said that all curry comes from India, has always come from India and that the British occupation has stolen one of their favorite yellow curry recipes and mangled it beyond all recognition. Oddly, they enjoyed the Japanese version of the mangled British version, so this little culinary faux pas apparently didn't strain political relations any more than they already were strained.
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Mon, March 5, 2007 - 4:28 PMWow, that is an amazing story, thank you...
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converted for your (my) convenience
Fri, January 25, 2008 - 2:09 PMthanks again for the rec!
8 servings
Ingredients:
for the roux:
*2 ½ teaspoons yellow curry powder (less if spicy, or more to taste)
1 yellow onion, minced
3 tablespoons + 1/2 teaspoon flour
5 2/3 cup (1.4 quarts) stock (beef for meat version, veggie and Bragg's Amino's for vegetarian)
1/4 cup reduced apple juice (begin with 1/2 and reduce to 1/4)
2 1/2 teaspoons grated fresh ginger
2 1/2 teaspoons fresh chopped garlic
1 1/4 teaspoons garam masala
* 2 1/2 teaspoons canola oil or clarified butter or combination
For Curry:
1 lb stew meat, cut into large bite size pieces for meat version, or *2 lbs tempeh for vegetarian
*Splash of apple juice
2 lbs potato, peeled, cut into large bite size pieces
1 lbs carrots, peeled and cut into large moon shapes
1 lbs onion
(optional additional vegetables: green beans cut in half, quartered mushrooms, firm white parts of bok choy- green parts may be added to another dish, turnips, etc.)
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Sun, November 26, 2006 - 9:08 PMI had to join tribes SOLELY because of this post for the purpose of thanking Kryssa for this recipe. This curry recipe is a perfect replica of the golden curry (and vermont curry - if you add the apples) that our family is addicted to, and can't easily buy here. I had been searching for a long time to try to find the recipe, but no one else seems to have cracked the code of golden curry. I could find any number of other curries (usually utilizing coconut-milk), but not this. Kryssa, you are a studess! We can now eat golden curry anytime we want, and it's one of our favorite foods. If I could look down the family line, I will bet three generations from now my posterity will be making this awesome curry. It's so much easier than driving to the Asian store and so much cheaper than making a double box of curry every time we want it. You have an amazing talent for tasting and creating. I don't know if I would have ever stumbled across apple juice, but that was the missing key ingredient for us...
Thank you immeasurably!!!!
-Wendy
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Re: Japanese Golden Curry!
Mon, November 27, 2006 - 3:04 PMThanks YOU !!!
I know of at least a few people who will melt when I make this for a potluck, and adjusted for my family.
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Sun, December 3, 2006 - 1:06 AMoh i'd love to have a copy of the recipe!
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Re: Japanese Golden Curry!
Mon, December 4, 2006 - 7:46 PMhey fred. I actually posted it earlier so if you scroll up you should be able to find it. Alas, I still haven't bothered to adjust measurments for smaller portions...but it freezes really well (the roux part) so I always just make it in mass quantities anyway.
And Wendy, thanks you so much for the kind words. I'm glad you're enjoying it and even more thrilled that you'll be passing it down to the next generation. One of these days I intend on writing a cookbook on demystifying just such recipes. Things that folks think they must get pre-made (with all the additives and preservatives) which are actually fairly easy to make from scratch.
Kryssa
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Sun, March 9, 2008 - 11:21 PMHello Kryssa,
Thank you for this wonderful recipe. I already tried it, and no doubt, this is the the closest
taste of all the "Japanese curry from scratch" recipe's in the net.
I have a question, the "smell" of original japanese roux is missing, (maybe i
mistakenly done something in the process) Did your curry have this smell when you
cooked yours? Do you have any suggestions about the ingredients which will bring
out this authentic smell of the Japanese curry?
thanks for your tine in reading this message.
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Sun, March 16, 2008 - 9:49 PMYa know...I'm not sure. I do know what you're talking about though. I imagine that it might have to do with the garam masala being used, which I'm sure is quite different in Japan. Other than that, perhaps they use a bit of dashi-- but I haven't experimented with using that in this recipe. Also, the Japanese are fond of putting quite a bit of sugar in just about everything, so that may alter the smell a bit as well.
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Mon, March 17, 2008 - 1:45 AMHello Kryssa,
ok i'll try the japanese garam masala, dashi and sugar. Let's see
what happens!
Thanks for the reply
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 7:36 PMHi, can I get the recipe for the golden curry. I really wanna try it without all the MSG and to see if I can really make it from scratch. Thanks so much.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 4:16 PMI have a recipe for curry adapted from a recipe I received while living in Japan. To me it tastes pretty authentic and every bit as good as "Vermont Curry". If you give it a try, let me know what you think. One post mentioned the distinctive smell of Japanese-style curry. I'm wondering if it might be the worcestershire sauce that does it.
Japanese Curry Rice
1 lb. beef, cubed (or pork or chicken)
1 Onion, halved and sliced in small wedges
2 Cloves garlic, chopped
2 T. Butter
3 Cups water
3 T. Flour
1 to 3 T. Curry powder (common yellow variety)
1 Chicken bouillon cube
3 T. Catsup
3 T. Worcestershire sauce
1 tsp. Sugar
½ tsp. Salt
1 Medium apple, peeled & cored
3 T. Milk
½ lb. Baby carrots, rinsed, or a couple of sliced carrots
2 Potatoes, cut in bite-size chunks
Sautee onion and garlic in butter until golden. Add beef and brown. Lower heat and stir in flour and curry powder until it absorbs the butter/oil. Stir in the water and bouillon cube. Raise heat and stir until the lumps of flour & curry are dissolved. Stir in catsup, Worcestershire sauce, sugar, and salt. Grate apple into sauce and stir in milk. Add carrots and potatoes and bring to a boil. Cover and reduce heat. Let simmer until vegetables and meat are tender. As it is simmering, add water and adjust seasonings as necessary. I use the full 3 tablespoons of curry powder, so I find I usually need to add more apple and sugar and maybe a squeeze of honey to mellow the curry. Serve the curry sauce over hot white short-grained rice. (I find the trick to cooking the Japanese variety of short-grained rice on the stove is to combine the water and rice and let it sit for a minimum of 30 minutes before turning on the heat.)
